Vito Liuzzi "Il Contrabbasso" or "The Classical Double Bass"

SOME EXTRACTS from THE AUTHENTIC CONCERTO by DOMENICO DRAGONETTI in A major

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Some bars of the AUTHENTIC CONCERTO in A Major by D. DRAGONETTI found on the NET. For Copyright question it's no possible to add all the bars of the CONCERTO.

This operation is only to demonstrate of the theory that I consider. Purpose: simply acquaintance.

If you would like to have it find among MALARIC's WORKS

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(Gabriele RAGGHIANTI ... probably the first in the world who has played a full recital with Dragonetti's Gasparo da Salò 1590 before to be restored!!)

THE "question" about DRAGONETTI's Concerto in A major

Well, sorry for my no correct English, but I will try to explain that the famous Concerto in A major by Dragonetti, was written by Edoard Nanny and edited from Sankey. It's not only my opinion but also important musicologies have noted something wrong.

First of all FIONA PALMER who has written a wonderful book about Dragonetti in the English period, strangely doesn't talk of a A major concerto like the one we study more. In the page above (dr. Palmer doesn't kill me for copyright!!!), in fact, we can see the A major original Concerto no. 3 (Ed.Malaric, a little bit far from the one that we can find in the British Museum ... much more different).

Well, maestro Ubaldo Fioravanti has recorded the other "fragments" of concerts written by Dragonetti, but the one written by Nanny/Dragonetti is invisible. In the British Museum it seems there's no trace of this Concerto. 

Ok, now we analize another point of you. I have seen the Dragonetti's Gasparo da Salò 1590. Dragonetti wasn't  a "giant", so when he wrote compositions for double bass or in duet with other instruments, he always used the same technique. Let's see the 12 waltz, the other complete musics. We can say: this Dragonetti 's signature. I.e.. It was very difficult that he wrote a lot of harmonic notes (compare the second time in the two concerts ... ) probably because the same had some problem to reach them easily.

At the contrary if we give a look at Nanny's works they are very similar with the one attribuited to Dragonetti. It's "lapalissiano" (like to tell: it's impossible that Dragonetti could write in Nanny's way).

 

So, the motives could be very different. Perhaps Sankey needed a Concerto to put asap on the market. I don't know! Surely, none would have bought a Nanny Concerto in A major. Perhaps under the name of Dragonetti it was much better. A lot of things we have found but others live in a mistery.

Today in International Competition we read"Concerto in A major" by Nanny/Dragonetti !! It's absurd!!

Probably to say: pay attention is not the one by Malaric,but the one by Nanny (first time is very difficult, 2nd not so beautiful, 3rd very difficult and here we know the hand of maestro Domenico Dragonetti, in the original one).

By the way, if we compare Malaric's revision

of the original one with the Stefano Sciascia's

performance ... well ... there are differences.

 

IMHO: simply a question of money!! With the name of Dragonetti the Concerto was very different for the market. By the way pay attention !!

 

 

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Well, when we talk about the history of The Double Bass it's better to change instrument,

because also today the great historicals prefer to take different point for starting and then

they reach their final considerations that are always at odds with each other.


Why?


Simply! We don' t have a "fixed date" to say: "Ok! Now the Double Bass has borned".


No! There isn't this day, sorry! But it's correct that the double bass was borned when "composers" decided to enlarge the low frequencies. Obviously, every "State" has follow his own way. But after comparison the

different works (a double bass had to be three meters high ...), well at that moment propably something began to change.

BREVE STORIA DEL CONTRABBASSO

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You will find other "news" about the no authentic Concerto in Amaj attributed to Domenico Dragonetti. Give a look around the site!

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NEWS about THE ORIGINAL CONCERT in AMAJ by DRAGONETTI

Where to find it

DRAGONETTI, DOMENICO Concerto Nr. 3 A-Dur; f. Kb. u. Orch.; f. Kb. u. Klav.; Rudolf Malaric, Heinrich Schneikart KRM 11

Here it's: the original Concert in Amaj no3 by Domenico Dragonetti. It's on the market as you can see and the marvellous Doblinger has in his main catalogue also another version one with strings. During this year I have tried to explain you the the no-original Concerto in Amaj was a simple work by Edouard NANNY. I have also told you some little secrets between Nanny and his editor Stuar Sankey. I have suggested you to read the great book by FIONA PALMER about Dragonetti in England. I have told you that the first in absolute in all over the world to record the original one has been Stefano SCIASCIA thanks to a microfilm and adding only two horns and two bassons. Well, I study the original Dragonetti Concerto in LA Magg. every day because it's very difficult, a great challange, and because it's no possible to be considered a good double bass player if you haven't study it (IMHO).There's no comparison with the Nanny's one who can be considered at five levels under the original one in matter of beautyness and difficulty: no match!! But I also hope in my soul that in auditions, recitals, Conservatory studies and International Competion they wouldn't no more write: Concerto in Amaj by Nanny/Dragonetti. It's absurd.Surely IMC is very power or has been so. But now let's stop with it and let's write: "Concerto in Amaj by E. NANNY". Just pay attention to the original one, the one edit by Malaric. Well, it's not the same in comparison with the one recorded from STEFANO SCIASCIA. There are some mistakes in Malaric one, but at the end he has been a very good work. In example don't play every G on the fourth string: Dragonetti has never written a work using a string he didn't have on his Gasparo da Salò. Bowings or strokes: you have to change everything because those written are no absolutely good. I haved add my fingerings and bowings which are more logical for this Concerto. But probably there will be someone who will use better ones. I hope you study the original one because it's beautiful and in the true spirit of our DOMENICO DRAGONETTI.

Vito Liuzzi

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"The legends about this concerto say it's Nanny's work, not Dragonetti's. This work has nothing to do with other Dragonetti's works and it's not among the Drag's manuscripts in the British Museum's library."

 

 Here maestro Sciascia has recorded in first absolute the " authentic" Concert in Amajor for db. and "strings" (more two bassons and two horns) by Domenico Dragonetti (no.3).

About the other concerto "more famous" I have some doubts about the real composer: surely he was a work by E. Nanny.

 

 

 

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