From the Neck to Thumb position

In this new section you will find some technical exercises relating to a main aspect of a doublebass: "The passage from the neck towards the Thumb position". I hope they might be interesting for someone.

All about Bottesini - I think it is written only in Italian but it's the most complete resource in the world.
All about Bottesini - I think it is written only in Italian but it's the most complete resource in the world.

FROM THE NECK TO THE THUMB POSITION

If you are going to study the Thumb Position little by little.

... click on the photos to enlarge. You can freely copy them!!

From the neck to thumb position
Not so difficult exercises (if you need, at the neck change 3 into 2 !!). No virus found.
Free copy.
MIO LIBRO dal manico al capotasto.rar
Archivio dati compresso 16.6 MB

Also fingerings are mine and they usually follow the Petracchi's conception

There are a lot of brief exercises, I know. But I think it's a great way to develope this very difficult passage

Very exepensive!! Italian and English
Very exepensive!! Italian and English

Let's go on

THE "question" about DRAGONETTI's Concerto in A major

FIONA PALMER excellent book
FIONA PALMER excellent book
Nanny
Nanny

Well, sorry for my no correct English, but I will try to explain that the famous Concerto in A major by Dragonetti, was written by Edoard Nanny and edited from Sankey. It's not only my opinion but also important musicologies have noted something wrong.

First of all FIONA PALMER who has written a wonderful book about Dragonetti in the English period, strangely doesn't talk of a A major concerto like the one we study more. In the page above (dr. Palmer doesn't kill me for copyright!!!), in fact, we can see the A major original Concerto no. 3 (Ed.Malaric, a little bit far from the one that we can find in the British Museum ... much more different).

Well, maestro Ubaldo Fioravanti has recorded the other "fragments" of concerts written by Dragonetti, but the one written by Nanny/Dragonetti is invisible. In the British Museum it seems there's no trace of this Concerto. 

Ok, now we analize another point of you. I have seen the Dragonetti's Gasparo da Salò 1590. Dragonetti wasn't  a "giant", so when he wrote compositions for double bass or in duet with other instruments, he always used the same technique. Let's see the 12 waltz, the other complete musics. We can say: this Dragonetti 's signature. I.e.. It was very difficult that he wrote a lot of harmonic notes (compare the second time in the two concerts ... ) probably because the same had some problem to reach them easily.

At the contrary if we give a look at Nanny's works they are very similar with the one attribuited to Dragonetti. It's "lapalissiano" (like to tell: it's impossible that Dragonetti could write in Nanny's way).

 

So, the motives could be very different. Perhaps Sankey needed a Concerto to put asap on the market. I don't know! Surely, none would have bought a Nanny Concerto in A major. Perhaps under the name of Dragonetti it was much better. A lot of things we have found but others live in a mistery.

Today in International Competition we read"Concerto in A major" by Nanny/Dragonetti !! It's absurd!!

Probably to say: pay attention is not the one by Malaric,but the one by Nanny (first time is very difficult, 2nd not so beautiful, 3rd very difficult and here we know the hand of maestro Domenico Dragonetti, in the original one).

By the way, if we compare Malaric's revision

of the original one with the Stefano Sciascia's

performance ... well ... there are differences.

 

Asap, an interview with maestro Stefano Sciascia.

 

 

dr.Vito Liuzzi  

BOTTESINI and THUMB POSITION: two Schools in comparison

Push on the picture to link RICORDI
Push on the picture to link RICORDI

SUMMARY

Well, with my no correct English, I will try to explain something about the ancient technique for the Thum Position.


First of all, I think that Giovanni Bottesini has been the first to use also the "little finger" (he call it number "4") in thumb position or harmoniques.


But the most interesting is this one:


"When Bottesini used to go in Thumb Position

he pressed on the fingerboard the thumb but the other fingers must press a lot but without

touching the fingerboard. This was the way of his playing. How can it be possible? I don't know, but I think that the action of his three gut strings should be quite high. It's no possible to play in his way with the 1st string at mm. 5 from fingerboard.


But there's another thing.

Bottesini was convinced that his way of playing in the thumb position was the better at that time, because all the notes play very clear and powerful.


But why did he specified it?


Because he knew that there were another School of Thought for which the better way to play in the thumb position was to press all the fingers on the fingerboard whith great force. But Bottesini tell us he didn't like it because of the quality sounds.


So two Schools in comparison. And Dragonetti what sort of technique used?

It's an aspect very important, because I think

the "ancient" concertos or sonatas ... at that time were played much slower respect to the one we do nowadays!! So if my thesis can be exact (I don't know), Dragonetti, Sperger, Vanhal, Dittersdorf, bottesini and so on must be play much slower. Why? A question of philology!! But the Double Bass seems to be the instrument among the bows for which the

concept of philology doesn' t exist.


Everyone tell us his trascription is the original one and the best, other Editions are totally different and so on. Why? The answer is simple. All must work.

 

Ops ... sorry! There was another "school": in thumb position they used to push the string towards their left. In Cantabile it was good, but in fast passages??

 

Vito Liuzzi

ITALO CAIMMI

Scale e Studi (Scales and Studies)

La tecnica superiore del Contrabbasso (Ricordi)
Italo Caimmi
Benfield
Benfield
LUCAS DREW
LUCAS DREW
MUZZI Franco
MUZZI Franco
ZIMMERMAN Fred
ZIMMERMAN Fred
JISKRA
JISKRA
HEGNER Ludwig
HEGNER Ludwig
MANOLY
MANOLY

THOMAS MARTIN says:

"We all must thank you, Dear Vito, for your tireless work for all of us bassists!"  You are doing so much for your colleagues and your art.

prof.dr. Vito Domenico Liuzzi "Doctor of Law" -"Magna cum Laude"

dr. Vito Liuzzi
dr. Vito Liuzzi

TRANSLATOR

"A TRIBUTE TO TEPPO" - Teppo Hauta-aho "THE KING" by Nbbrecords

DAN STYFFE "Octophonia" NEW CD

THIERRY BARBE'

CATALIN ROTARU or "The PAGANINI of the DOUBLE BASS"

MAURICIO ANNUNZIATA & his New Three Concertos for doublebass (free download)

Click on the image for the free download
Click on the image for the free download

MARCOS MACHADO & His New Book (VOL.1) for The Left Hand. HR!

SPERGER DUO - "Sonatas for Double Bass and Piano" with PILIP JARO & Xénia Jarovà

GOLDBERG VARIATIONS

PINO ETTORRE

LEON BOSH

BOTTESINI

ALBERTO BOCINI

DAN STYFFE

DAXUN ZHANG

NICHOLAS BAYLEY

MARCOS MACHADO

METAMORFORA
METAMORFORA

JOEL QUARRINGTON

Garden Scene
Garden Scene

ORAZIO FERRARI

MICHAEL WOLF

MICHAEL WOLF BOOK, if you like click on to Schott Edition
MICHAEL WOLF BOOK, if you like click on to Schott Edition

 

PIERMARIO MURELLI

PIERMARIO MURELLI - "Nuova didattica per contrabbasso " Ed. RICORDI

ALFREDO TREBBI

ALFREDO TREBBI - Novissimo manuale semiserio per contrabbasso (click on the picture above to read more)
ALFREDO TREBBI - Novissimo manuale semiserio per contrabbasso (click on the picture above to read more)

RICCARDO CROTTI

GEIRD REINKE

BOGUSLAW FURTOK

SILVIO DALLA TORRE

ENRICO FAGONE

IRINA KALINA GOUDEVA

MICHAEL KLINGHOFFER

OVIDIU BADILA

ALFRED PLANIAVSKY

MAURIZIO TURRIZIANI

THE BASS GANG

Thomas Martin & Timothy Cobb

SILVIA MATTEI

HR
HR

THE BASS SONORITY

THE BASS SONORITY: Vito Liuzzi, Michele Cellaro, Vincenzo Chiapperini, Leonardo Presicci, Giuseppe Lillo, Giovanni Rinaldi
THE BASS SONORITY: Vito Liuzzi, Michele Cellaro, Vincenzo Chiapperini, Leonardo Presicci, Giuseppe Lillo, Giovanni Rinaldi

DONOVAN STOKES

STEFANO SCODANIBBIO

Dead in Macerata at 55 years old

CATALIN ROTARU

FEDERICO BAGNASCO

CLICK ON THE PHOTO TO BUY
CLICK ON THE PHOTO TO BUY

ALFREDO TREBBI

Lo Zen e l' arte di imparare uno strumento
High Recommended

THOMAS MARTIN & his "Requiem" by Bottesini

PAOLO BENELLI

Dragonetti: Solos for double bass

by PAOLO BENELLI for CARISCH
by PAOLO BENELLI for CARISCH

FEDERICO BAGNASCO

Cd

MICHELE VERONESE

CATALIN ROTARU

Cd/DVD

PAOLO BENELLI

World Premiere!

FRANCESCO FRAIOLI

DAN STYFFE

"Portraits for friends" by BERNARD SALLES

BASSIONE AMOROSA

IRINA-KALINA GOUDEVA

"Recomenzar El Infinito"

Mr. PETRU IUGA "invention" !!!

Vito Liuzzi !!

Rino Liuzzi in STUDIOS

free counters